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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2012 3:19 pm    Post subject:
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well for now, I want it to just be. It takes sooo much time for them to release each part of the RoE.

When I think how old I was when the whole story started... ;-/

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2012 5:19 pm    Post subject:
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There is something's I don't get, I know it sounds like a stupid question but in the Next Time Preview there was one part where Kaji was pointing yelling at someone and Gendo walking with some other NERV officials in the cold, what's up with those? Also I Wonder what Kajis yelling at.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 8:40 am    Post subject:
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There is something's I don't get, I know it sounds like a stupid question but in the Next Time Preview there was one part where Kaji was pointing yelling at someone and Gendo walking with some other NERV officials in the cold, what's up with those? Also I Wonder what Kajis yelling at.

We don't know.
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There is something's I don't get, I know it sounds like a stupid question but in the Next Time Preview there was one part where Kaji was pointing yelling at someone and Gendo walking with some other NERV officials in the cold, what's up with those? Also I Wonder what Kajis yelling at.


My own uneducated guess is that Kaji is probably trying to break out of Tokyo-3, and he has come across some obstacle.

I've been thinking about a possible parallel between the start of 3.0 and Ep. 24 of the original series. In Ep. 24 IIRC Asuka attempts suicide in an abandoned building. Could she try the same at the start of 3.0, by somehow escaping from NERV HQ, and winding up in Misato's (most likely abandoned) apartment?

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 12:43 pm    Post subject:
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My own uneducated guess is that Kaji is probably trying to break out of Tokyo-3, and he has come across some obstacle.

My uneducated guess would be that it is a scene meant to contrast Kaji's death scene in NGE.
- He is not calm, but agitated.
- He is not unarmed, but holding a gun and getting ready to fire it.
- It is still not seen to whom (or what) he is responding.

I have no firm opinion on whether this means Kaji will die or not. Either he will die in this scene, or he will escape death and make a difference in the story later on. Regardless, it is an iconic scene that Rebuild must use in some way.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2012 7:52 pm    Post subject:
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So the entire Tokyo 3 was blown up in an X pattern. I'm pretty excited to see where the characters end up now, as the whole original series was pretty locked in that one location. Now that it doesn't exist we can ship them off practically anywhere. I want to see more of the post Third Impact world, like a modern non-fortress city or more areas completely destroyed by war/sea levels. The underwater city in the boat episode was a nice hint.

SEELE also has great potential in Rebuild to become less plot magic and more sinister organization. With the streamlined plot, I expect to see at least one member of SEELE in the flesh.
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SEELE also has great potential in Rebuild to become less plot magic and more sinister organization. With the streamlined plot, I expect to see at least one member of SEELE in the flesh.


Well, I guess seeing Kiel Lorenz and the some of the Committee which Gendo communicated with NGE might not count as "in the flesh" - they may have been just holograms.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 10:16 am    Post subject:
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they may have been just holograms.


Yep, they were holograms since they were in different parts of the world (Kiel in Germany, the other Committee members in France, England, etc, etc).

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 9:20 pm    Post subject:
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I mean physically in the same room.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:15 pm    Post subject:
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I get the feeling that there are going to be a whole lot of new characters thrown into the mix of this one. It seems like since Tokyo's a complete wreck, so the pilots are going to have to go internationally or something.

It'd be cool to see what the rest of the world looks like in all of this.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2012 11:36 pm    Post subject:
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One of the things I felt was under explored even in the original was that while the story concerned this post apocalyptic global effort, most of it happened in Tokyo 3, from a purely Japanese perspective. Tokyo 3 got wrecked up some, but it was the most technologically rich portion of the world since Nerv poured so many resources into it. You only ever saw bits and pieces of the outside world, which had succumbed to poverty and decay.

I think it'd be a good opportunity to show Nerv through the eyes of the other nations involved. Maybe even show portions of the world that have fallen apart while Tokyo 3 got most of the money. One of the undercurrents was the outward hostility and resentment from these nations because of Tokyo 3's special place in the project. Since Eva went rogue, maybe these other political elements take this as an opportunity to make their move.

Edit: I realize that this is likely because of Anno's somewhat nationalistic bent. Despite the story involving the UN and humanity uniting against a common threat with undercurrents of international espionage, all principle characters (besides the Seele members) are Japanese. Even Asuka -the token foreign character- is half Japanese after all.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 12:19 pm    Post subject:
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Asuka -the token foreign character- is quarter Japanese after all.


Fixed that for you.

And considering ReShinji did this

I doubt we're going to be chilling in Tokyo-3 for 3.0.
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Fixed that for you.

And considering ReShinji did this

I doubt we're going to be chilling in Tokyo-3 for 3.0.


"Holy fucking shit" indeed.
I wonder what that is in German.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2012 2:49 pm    Post subject:
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Heilige Scheiße...but that's going by Google Translate.
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I Don't Want Kaji to Die, he was the only likeable main character in the anime, next to Misato, Hikari, Toji and Kensuke, the only male who wasn't boring and cold. but at least we'll get to see some character development on kaji for 3.0. can you imagine what it would sound like if kaji was yelling like that? :P
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Okay, so what we have here appears to be phallic symbol towards the bottom. Far above it, there seems to be something that resembles an anus. Between the two apparatuses is a large cross, most likely to show a rejection of the combining of the two things. From what I can surmise on this, this symbolizes Shinji's rejection of the idea of homosexuality. So apparently, Kaworu isn't getting lucky anytime soon.

Furthermore, the fact that he has essentially become one with his mother (and a clone of her) seems to further complicate the situation. He apparently desires to be in a romantic relationship with his mother and a half. I suppose this goes entirely beyond the idea of an Oedipus Complex and into something else entirely.

Sometimes a cigar is really a penis.

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Heilige Scheiße...but that's going by Google Translate.


Google Translate seems to be correct for once.

Also, sometimes a lake is just a lake.

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Furthermore, the fact that he has essentially become one with his mother (and a clone of her) seems to further complicate the situation.


I wonder if Yui's soul is going to end up in Rei. I know it sounds far-fetched, but maybe Near-3I has been sort of a reverse contact experiment.

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Okay, so what we have here appears to be phallic symbol towards the bottom.

It's Lake Ashinoko

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It's Lake Ashinoko


Which only serves to illustrate that he wrecked the landscape BIG TIME...

Somewhere in there, Fuyutsuki is in tears, redrawing the maps once again (Then again, did the Rebuild cast even engage in mayor Landscape-wrecking so far...? RE!Fuyu would certainly still lament, given his "mother earth" comment. )

As far as Tokyo-3 goes, it's safe to assume that it will be in something comparable to its post ep 23 state... Still, I give Misato's appartment a 50/50 survival chance since it survived last time.

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View Original Post driftking18594 wrote:
I wonder if Yui's soul is going to end up in Rei. I know it sounds far-fetched, but maybe Near-3I has been sort of a reverse contact experiment.


Well...Rei Ayanami is definitely different this time around, the fact that there are 4 Rei clones surviving outside of the tank, peaks my interest. But, I really doubt she'll leave Unit-01, and we're going to see the appearance of Rei III, Rei IV, Rei V, and Rei VI, each a fragment of a whole soul.

Edit: It says Tokyo-3 in the preview has been abandoned.
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