Interesting little details in 2.XX

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Postby Sgt. Griff » Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:54 am

View Original PostSaltyJoe wrote:I would also like to point out that he doesn't wear any Interface Headsets. And what else he would be?


He also lives on the moon.

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Postby Mt Olympus » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:06 pm

There seems to be an oversight with the tape player in 2.22, or I'm just misinformed... Two tape players back to back in the movie, the first one when Rei pulls it from the trash then immediately after when Shinji is leaving Misato's apartment she offers him the same thing saying "You almost forgot this". The only reasonable explanation could be that the tape player Misato has is some kind of aftermarket player for the voice messenger. But that seems unlikely, especially from what she says to Shinji in that scene.

http://imgur.com/a/Ee1XQ

the first snapshot doesnt look like it uploaded properly, or Misato could be talking about the tape that he's forgetting.

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Postby robersora » Sat Mar 17, 2012 10:14 pm

^
lol, Misato has his phone in her hands, not his tape-recorder.
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Postby Mt Olympus » Sat Mar 17, 2012 11:05 pm

View Original Postrobersora wrote:^
lol, Misato has his phone in her hands, not his tape-recorder.


I guess I'm a stupid Shinji then :( And Misato is a perv for going through his phone messages...

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Postby npcompl33t » Sun Mar 18, 2012 2:23 am

I was wondering about these:

the spear shown on the moon - is it the one shown in Lillith in 1.0, or do they have both spears in this continuity?

The giant on the moon that has lilliths mask - I noticed in 1.0 it has an IV like apparatus that says "BTB" - i thought maybe it was Adam's equivalent to LCL.

WHAT WAS IN THE 4 COFFINS THAT WERE ALREADY OPENED???????

I think the bit about Ritsuko saying that she gained weight implies that she does not have a relationship with Gendo. I noticed that during the scene where Rei is in the dummy plug tank - in the show Ritsuko was also present and responded with a jealous look when Gendo asked Rei to go eat, but she was absent from the scene in the film. The films are already stretched for time, so to pass on 2 instances of possible set up for the Ritsuko-Gendo relationship would seem to indicate that no such relationship is taking place.
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Postby Drabant » Sat Mar 24, 2012 10:10 am

View Original Postnpcompl33t wrote:WHAT WAS IN THE 4 COFFINS THAT WERE ALREADY OPENED???????


We don't know, we can only speculate. Some say it is Angels. Maybe.

There had been four angels so far, and Kaworu would then be the fifth, so it fits. Unfortunately, it doesn't fit with 2.0, or the "rest" of the angels that were supposedly also opened, like tunniel and adam.

I say it could be the Children, perhaps. Rei, Asuka, Shinji and Mari.

The four other coffins are new characters to be introduced in 3.0, or 4.0.

For what purpose do we keep children in coffins? I don't know. Maybe the whole thing is just a play.

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Postby npcompl33t » Fri Apr 06, 2012 2:07 am

Another reason i just caught as to why the coffins couldnt be the angels - while we have only seen 4 at the end of 1.1 they still refer to some the other angels by numbers - though they are different from the show the go higher than 4. For example when it show the projections of ramiels drilling it has the text "angel 6 simulation", even though ramiel was #5 in the show.

I like the idea that they were holding the children, i hadn't considered that one.

Also i can confirm that there are 2 spears in the movie, it shows the spear still in lillith's chest during the fight with Zeruel, meaning the one on the moon (and thrown by Kaworu) has to be a different one.
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Postby Kendrix » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:52 am

View Original Postnpcompl33t wrote:Another reason i just caught as to why the coffins couldnt be the angels - while we have only seen 4 at the end of 1.1 they still refer to some the other angels by numbers - though they are different from the show the go higher than 4. For example when it show the projections of ramiels drilling it has the text "angel 6 simulation", even though ramiel was #5 in the show.


You forget that the numeration counts Adam and Lillith, who aren't "regular" Angels (as in, the attacking children of Adam) And there is the third Angel who was captured and killed by Mari at the beginning of 2.0.

So it's:

3. Bone Angel
4. Sachiel
5. Shamshel
6. Ramiel

which makes four Angels and four coffins.
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Postby Nathan1 » Fri Apr 06, 2012 5:56 am

When evangelion 2.22 show the short clip of second impact there was 4 lances and there were 4 giants

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Postby retroboy » Thu Apr 12, 2012 1:59 pm

View Original PostMt Olympus wrote:This is a small thing from the end of 1.11, right after Shinji opens Rei's entry plug the scene pans up to the moon and it isn't blood streaked, I just noticed this and I don't recall any other from Earth shots of the moon, so maybe this was just an over sight but right after this the scene goes to Kaworu waking up on the blood streak.

http://i.imgur.com/PfmGW.jpg

you forgot the moon rotates to unlike a popular song the moon doesn't have a dark side.

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Postby Ornette » Thu Apr 12, 2012 2:33 pm

View Original Postretroboy wrote:you forgot the moon rotates to unlike a popular song the moon doesn't have a dark side.

It's a bit of a misnomer/semantics for Far side of the moon, which does exist and is what is being used in this context, the part of the moon that never faces the Earth because, like you said, the moon rotates, but it rotates at the same rate that it revolves around the Earth because it's tidal locked.

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Thu Apr 12, 2012 5:59 pm

Seems as though you can't see the blood streak from Earth. I don't recall anytime in 2.22 you could see the blood streak from the Earth's surface. All I remember are shots taking place on the moon's surface that revealed the blood streak. (I could be wrong, though. 'm taking a break from Break, and haven't seen it in a while.)
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Postby robersora » Thu Apr 12, 2012 7:49 pm

^
well, I also doubt, that you can see the blood streak, because for that it is to thin/small...
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Postby valshon » Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:57 am

I would also agree that it would be impossible to see the blood streak with an unaided eye, for example there are no known instances of anyone looking up at Tabgha base..if that were the case Gendo and Kozo could have just hijacked an observatory or spy satellite to look at Mk 6.
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Postby Jayfive » Fri Jul 06, 2012 2:55 pm

Would you say this was re-done as this?

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Postby bobbyfischer's ghost » Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:05 pm

^ That would make Asuka her main enemy. :lol:
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Postby Mori-kun » Sat Jul 07, 2012 7:51 am

Speaking of Asuka, does anyone think that the scene where Kaji harasses Shinji holds subtle reference to the 22' mind rape scene of Kaji (wearing what almost look like preacher robes :rofl: ) abandoning Asuka and holding Shinji?
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I don't think it holds much significance, but when I consider that both are twisted interpretations of a reality, I feel that either they deliberately made this allusion or they noticed the correlation at some point during animation.
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Postby Chroma » Wed Jul 18, 2012 1:15 am

View Original PostKendrix wrote:So it's:

3. Bone Angel
4. Sachiel
5. Shamshel
6. Ramiel

which makes four Angels and four coffins.


This could work, but so could the Children thing. Is there really nothing else released yet that might give us a hint to the coffins' true nature?
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