Official Rebuild Dub Thread

I'm going to laugh if not only the language barrier issue comes up in Q, but also if Mari says something like "I abhor the F word". Not because I give a flying-F about either of those issues, but I'm honestly curious to see how the dub works around it. Hopefully by injecting more swearing.

Warren Peace wrote:

Sometimes the turkey sandwich is better than the cheeseburger. Death Note, Cowboy Bebop, them's some good turkey sandwiches. No reason to bother with the cheeseburger when it comes to those...

Not to instigate some inane shit storm, but they're still not cheeseburgers. I've never seen those dubs so I can't comment on the quality, but there always is a reason to bother with the Japanese track. It's the original track, with the original cast and crew, and the original actors that the original director picked. A dub simply can never be that. A dub is an alternate way to view the material. It's the American or Canadian or whatever language (I've yet to see a non-American or Canadia dub, but I am disappointed I couldn't find the South Pacific Asia English dub of Gundam ZZ) adaptation and should be viewed as such. It's inherently different than the original and should not be ever judged as such. So as long as it's entertaining I don't care what the content of the dub is. Not because the only people who watch dubs are retards who will burst in fire if a program isn't in their language, but because no matter what, anime is a Japanese media, produced by Japanese people, for Japanese people.

If you want to watch the show the director intended to make, you watch it in the language he made it in. It's because of this why bad dubbing never pisses me off beyond the fact that I sat down and watched it. Zeta Gundam's dub was the auditory equivalent of getting punched in the nuts repeatedly, but beyond it wasting a good eighteen hours of my life, I can't get too angry at it unless it gets up and deletes the original audio track.

gatotsu911 wrote:

I can't wait for Tarnsman's sure-to-be smite-tastic review of Cowboy Bebop.

Considering I've had people tell me that I was wrong for not watching Cowboy Bebop dubbed and that the Japanese track is a worthless piece of crap that is unneeded; Bebop's dub better me the most amazing thing I will ever see in my life. It better enlighten me. It better allow me to discover the secrets of the universe and end all war forever. It better be so amazing that my eardrums burst because I will never again hear audio as perfect as it.

Seeing as how Tarnsman seems to have an almost personal aversion to the concept of dubbing itself, he probably shouldn't bother. But many people do consider Bebop's dub to be the best ever recorded.

Of course it's true that the Japanese track will always be the most authentic. Authenticity aside, dubs can (and have) improved upon the original creation. It's because Alessandro Juliani brings so much to the character of L that I won't be bothering with the original track ever again. Same goes for Bebop. If the turkey sandwich is tastier than the cheeseburger, authenticity becomes a moot point. I'd miss Juliani too much. Others might miss the Japanese performer. Luckily, there's just one button between them on the remote control.

What? I think Tarnsman's philosophy is totally reasonable. Even as a guy who watches dubs the more often than not, I pretty much agree with him. A dub can never take the place of the original product; it's just another means by which to experience it. That doesn't even mean the dub can't be better than the original product; it will still never be the original product. And for the record, having followed his blog for a while and even recommended a few entries to him, I can attest that he has unironically enjoyed a number of dubs; he seemed particularly fond of the dubs for Rebuild, Summer Wars and Welcome to the NHK (all of them understandably so). I don't completely share his opinions on everything (I liked the original Eva and Fullmetal Alchemist dubs a lot more than he did, while I liked FLCL a lot less) but even though he's a "subbie" and I'm a "dubbie", I think we mostly see eye-to-eye. You seem to pretty much agree with the core philosophy at work here as well (re: "authenticity"), so I don't see why we can't be civil about this.

Also, diverting this discussion for a second, am I the only person on the planet who thinks the Cowboy Bebop dub is overrated? I mean, it's good, but it's not the pinnacle of auditory bliss that it's so frequently made out to be. I can easily name 5-10 dubs that are flat-out better (Death Note being one of them).

Death Note, overrated? Nonsense. It succeeded flawlessly at what it set out to do: be a breakneck-paced, super-slick, operatic white-knuckle thriller. Anyone who tells you that it is more or less than that is lying to you. Though if you haven't read the manga you at least have some excuse, as the anime rather botches the second story arc.

Death Note is Sherlock Holmes for the 21st century (actually, the BBC's recent Sherlock show had me thinking of Death Note all the time). I had a lot of issues with the second half of the series, but the first half is awesome enough to make up for it.

[Yeah yeah, off topic, but so what? This is better than what we would've talked about.]

-Tiffany Grant is annoying!
-No she's not!
-Yes she is, but she's supposed to be!
-Oh, I don't know about all that!

See?

As I've said before, I kind of get the impression that the whole "deranged fangirl" routine is kind of an act that she puts on, just for kicks, and she is "secretly" a pretty normal, sane person. (Well, minus the colossal hoards of Eva and Hello Kitty merchandise.)

^ Yeah, the two are different in many ways, but I'm sure they had fun. After all, Miyamura brought her daughter along for the trip. Nothing too crazy could have happened.

I personally think it's great that Grant and Miyamura got to spend a day together. It's just fun to meet someone on the other side of the world that you have some sort of common ground on and that you'd respect greatly.

Holy shit! Alaska Slim is back! 8)

As the venerable Carl Horn writes in the Sadamanga vol. 13 (or was it 14?) postscript, two voice actors from both sides of the pond bonding over a shared role sets a pretty excellent precedent for the anime industry abroad. Are there any other cases of this happening? I think I read something once about Vic Mignogna meeting Romi Park (both Ed in Fullmetal Alchemist) and I saw a Youtube video of Luci Christian meeting Nanae Kotoh (both Ahiru/Duck in Princess Tutu).

How about Little Kurriboh meeting Vic Mignona?