The circular shapes on the mechanical part of the key remind me of the circular symbol used to represent the holy trinity.

Still thinking if this holds any import.

NAW, I know we had a little confab about this last night, but have you checked the 2.0 special features? Does it have a closer view of the key?

Some stuff about the Key, images spoilered for size:

I made this one to emphasize the overall shape of the key itself and the writings on it that weren't in red.

If you look at bottom left corner, you can see that the catalog number has been erased, and that the "specimen name" has some pretty weird symbols in it. I'm pretty sure that it's not kanji, or at least not just that. Also, near the head of the key, there are some plain old kanji. Anyone care to translate? Is it just the name, or something more?

EDIT:
Scratch that, now that i look closer, the symbols near the head are not kanji, but something else.


With this one, i tried to make out the writing in red above the Seele insignia. If you squint really hard, you can make out what seems to be some sort of identification code: 2094W02, at least that's my guess. Another obscure reference, perhaps?

Aslo, sorry if this was already brought up somewhere else, but the Key might somehow allude to Nebuchadnezzar's dream. Or not.

SaltyJoe wrote:Scratch that, now that i look closer, the symbols near the head are not kanji, but something else.

It's the same thing as the Specimen Label which is cuneiform for Nebuchadnezzar but flipped 180°

The symbols aren´t kanji, are archaic Akkadian.
The first symbol means Nebo, the Babylonian god identified with Mercury, son of Marduk and Sarpanitu. Nebo is the god of wisdom and erudition: 'the god who possesses intelligence, who hears from afar, he who teaches, lord of the hallmarks of the tablets'. All symbols, except the Latin characters are Akkadians.
Here the rest of symbols: (600) http://www.alain.be/akkadien.html
The full name of the specimen is Nebuchadnezzar (expected, right?), and it should be noted that Nebuchadnezzar is an Akkadian name which means "¡Oh Nebo, protect the Heir!"
The symbols that shows up in the head is the same name, but are turned

You gotta admit that Anno hasn't lost the attention to detail we first saw in NGE O.o

On July 4, 2010 I wrote:I don't remember seeing that cut in Rebuild and I'm not going to watch through the whole thing again just to confirm it. However, I just realized that there will certainly be a better view of the text in Evangelion: Complete 2.0. Probably even the illegibly tiny text below it.

Yep:

I would like to ask before anything if there is no problem posting pics of official books from the rebuild set of movies.

Shinies wrote:I would like to ask before anything if there is no problem posting pics of official books from the rebuild set of movies.

Nobody here's scanned any in, but if you're asking if you may, that's not a problem.

Nope I'm not asking for scans, I was asking if there is problem if I post some of the images I recently found, maybe they will help a little bit with the theorizing of this key.

That's not a problem.

Well first is of course the key itself, mind you this is more of a sketch thing for the final one but maybe someone could find anything interesting that made it in the final drawing:



And as an extra the symbols found where the key is:

Reichu wrote:Probably says "Nebuchadnezzar".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Nebukadnessar_II.jpg

I agree. It's hard to compare the two, but look at the bottom glyph on the Key's field: it's a big asterisk (*), which is present twice in the wiki link.

SaltyJoe wrote:With this one, i tried to make out the writing in red above the Seele insignia. If you squint really hard, you can make out what seems to be some sort of identification code: 2094W02, at least that's my guess. Another obscure reference, perhaps?

The '9' actually looks to me like an '8', because it bulges at the bottom. Unfortunately, google didn't turn up anything for '2084W02' either.

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I'm surprised no one seems very interested in the 'Lost Number' bit, and that the censoring of the sample number reveals that whatever its number was, it was low.

Both to me point to this little-man-in-bakelite being good old Adam. With Adam in bakelite and Lilith up on the moon, we only have 2 FAR/seeds from the flashback to explain away.

The Lost Number I take to mean that he's been excluded from the 'contract' (hence the 'lost' bit) even though he meets the condition to be included in the Number of Angels.

The sample number blackout is there to disguise that the sample number actually reads '000-0000-0001'.

gwern wrote:Both to me point to this little-man-in-bakelite being good old Adam. With Adam in bakelite and Lilith up on the moon, we only have 2 FAR/seeds from the flashback to explain away.

Lilith is not on the moon. Lilith is in the basement until such time as Anno inevitably pulls the reverse twist and LOL IT WAS ADAM all along or something dumb like that. Mark 06 is not Lilith just because it has a Seele mask stapled to its head.

gwern wrote:The Lost Number I take to mean that he's been excluded from the 'contract' (hence the 'lost' bit) even though he meets the condition to be included in the Number of Angels.

A solid idea, and as good an explanation as any. Might also have to do with the fact that the Key was "lost" to Seele? But then, if the name comes from the Dead Sea Scrolls - ah, you know what, never mind. There's not going to be much more we can reliably speculate about this without more information on the contract.

Does anyone agree that this needle seems to hold a heavy resemblance to the entry plug?