Off-Topic split of random complaints

I'm going to take Zuggy's place now and rip on Akuma-kun.

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Despite the lack of nudity, this stuff's waaaay ecchier than my picture of the butt with the melon shoved inside it. This is also the second recent breast-fondling GIFatar recently. I'm not trying to get Akuma-kun's stuff changed, I'd just like to have a good set of set standards set. Breasts are fine but not buttocks, but only if clothed, or were both breastgropery avatars simply overlooked by moderators?

I'm really fine with rules about allowing/disallowing certain things, as long as the rules are consistent.

As I've detailed in this thread and in the other one concerning avatars, there's no detailed guidelines on this. Even if there were, there will still be exceptions, which would require yet another guideline. It'll be to long and nobody would follow it anyways. Who wants to go through a long list of "this is ok" and "this is not ok" just for an avatar? If you need a list like that to tell you if an avatar is acceptable or not, then it's probably not worth your trouble.

This is the consistency: Since there is no guidelines, the moderators decide what is and isn't acceptable. Within the moderation staff a concensus will be reached. The moderators will consistently be the ones who deem what is and isn't acceptable content for the forums and it will consistently be 100% at their discretion. Unfortunately, different people have different ideas of what is acceptable or not. Your scale of ecchi doesn't matter, only the moderator's scale of ecchi will matter when it comes to this discretion. There are no rules about allowing or disallowing specific things as far as what goes in an avatar or what pictures get posted, they are purposely left ambiguous and to the moderator's discretion.

If someone's idea of what is acceptable is so vastly different than that of the moderators, and after being moderated, they continue to venture into the unacceptable area, then something will need to be done. It isn't the moderator's jobs to teach someone the status quo, and by the status quo, I mean the 99.9% of the other members who post perfectly acceptable content.

This isn't anything personal. But it is a subjective judgment made by people who aren't always right, and made by people who don't get paid for their time. So what can you expect? The 2 Ai Yori Aoshi ~Enishi~ avatars (including Hunter's old avatar) is fine with me. It is a bit racy but not so much so that I'd get in trouble if my boss happened to see it on my display (hypothetical, this isn't a guideline or a rule).

So Onsokumaru's poisonous mushroom tip is ok?

I'm just gonna toss this in there, but Formless One's back-seat modding as of late seems to be more along the lines of trolling then anything else I've seen recently. Just, you know, pointing that out since it was what the split thread seemed originally aimed at.

I already said I'd stop.

Zimlord should know this because he pointed it out first.

I just wonder why I'm the only newb who read the rules first. Thats all.

BTW, this thread was aimed at Zuggy's bizzare complaints about... well we haven't figured out what yet.

NaveryW: You DO know that Hunter21 had that Tina Foster breast groping avatar several months back right? Nobody had a problem with it then.

Still, because this site should be safe for work, I guess pantsu or prevvy things can't be in avatars? What about swim suits or big boobs like in Hetano drawings then? Seriously, where IS the line drawn?, I'm not being a smart ass with this, I'm just asking because I honestly still don't know. Although I guess things being case-by-case is the best way to go really.

I agree with everything Ornette said on the matter at any rate.

Ornette wrote:

It is a bit racy but not so much so that I'd get in trouble if my boss happened to see it on my display (hypothetical, this isn't a guideline or a rule).

Though it's hypothetical, I think it's a good hypothetical rule to go by, honestly.

Yes, I'm aware of Hunter's avatar, and I mentioned it in my previous post (and in an earlier post as well). I'm just somewhat annoyed that breast groping seems to be fine in avatars, but the buttrub one wasn't. I spent a long time making that avatar; as I don't have a traditional GIF program, I had to take frame-by-frame screenshots from the source material, import them into Photoshop and resize them, import the resized images into Flash, export as a GIF at various different compressions to see which ones looked best and would fit in the regular filesize, then finally upload the finished item. One would think that sticking a melon all up in there wouln't be so hard, but I had to do that frame-by-frame using Flash's masking feature. In other words, it was a lot of work and I was pleased with the finished product, which I found funny and not the least bit offensive. Again, naked buttocks are G-rated. Naked breasts are PG-13 if shown for a few seconds; any more than that and you have an R rating. The breasts in the avatars are not nude, but they are being fondled rather vehemently, whereas the posterior in my avatar was only being rubbed a little. "Mild" breast groping (without any motion; simply a hand placed on a breast) for a few seconds is automatic PG; I have no examples to back this up, but I'd assume any motion of the hand would make it PG-13. Aside from that, breast groping certainly has a more sexual connotation than buttrubbing. Breasts are erogenous zones, whereas buttocks aren't.

Why should this site be made Safe For Work, anyway? When you people are at work, shouldn't you be, you know, working?

However having an avatar is a good indication that the account is not a spam-bot. While a few such do still leak through, none to date has bothered with an avatar.

I'm fine with no avatars.

My two cents on the avatar bit: if we're not allowed to post provocative, trolling, or hostile sigs filled with flames (or image sigs filled with pron- or any other image sig, for that matter), why would we be allowed to post avatars with provocative, potentially offensive depending on the person, material in our avatars? Granted, its more an issue of SEKS, and no one has posted an avatar flipping the bird (that I know of), but is there not a similarity?

Thats all I've got to say on the subject.

One more thing on avatars: aside from the simple aspect of fun expressiveness, I often just glance at someone's avatar to see who's posting instead of reading the username. It's easier and faster to just tell that
means Ornette,
means SSD, and so on.