Don't know when both of these DVDs were released in the US, but in the UK D&R/E.O.E. were both released in 2002 (D&R might have been released in 2001 thinking about it). At the time I used to buy computer magazines and these adverts popped up in a few of the issues, so I cut them out and stuck them in this plastic folder and they've been there ever since! - recently I came across them again and decided to scan them. Dunno if the folks here who are in the US had the same kind of adverts or not in their magazines, if they didn't or you just haven't seen them before then they might be of interest -



I don't think MVC exists anymore.