Mr. Tines wrote:Possibly not so much as "not very strong will"; rather a case of the Eva's will being deliberately and explicitly suppressed or disconnected, most of the time (viz. the function of the armour as restraints), and the pilot synch taking place at a level "below" the Eva's own volition, most of the time.
I still don't understand how the 'armor' serves to "restraint" the Evas in any real way. It's just stuff that covers their bodies. The real control, I think, comes from the mutilation of the spinal cord, which, as an added bonus, also serves to put the Eva's body in the control of a pilot. Heh, has ANYone actually read that long write-up from the commentary?
On the purpose of electricity in powering an Eva - we do know that Angels are of a form of matter akin to normal stuff, but clearly different in some respect - perhaps as if it originated out of some subtly different tuning of physical laws
Well, they're compared to "solidified light"; you know better than I what real-life physics has to say on that matter, though.
and the fleshy bodies of the Evangelions are also derived from those of Angels.
Some of the Angels have "fleshy bodies", as well.
Other observed data would tend to reinforce this similar-yet-different nature, and further suggest that they have a mainly narrativium driven metabolism
"Narrativium"? How does Disc World feature into all of this?
which element being in short supply in the "normal" cosmos, leads them (Angels and Evas both) to enter a quiescent state much of the time, to husband their resources. This would also explain the disinclination to express volition as a general rule.
There is apparently some way to generate this stuff... Adam churned out all of those Angels, and Gehirn/Nerv churned out all of those Evas (counting the failures). On the matter of the necessity of Angels to need to "husband their resources", doesn't the fact that they have a Super-Solenoid run contra to this?
In this way of looking at things, the external or onboard battery power is just a massive exercise in functional electrical stimulation (essentially cyborging the meat directly, through good old galvanic action).
"Cyborging the meat directly"? Could you explain a little more? The level of comprehension on this side is lamentably low.
Gaizo...something or other wrote:Brain must be used to operate Eva's internal organs and other various things. Brain must be there as it is seen in EOE in unit 2,
All Evas have brains, although, yes, proof does come from EVA-02, and EVA-03 (whose brains can be seen flying out of her skull and splattering against various things when Sho punches her) and one of the harpies as well. We also see the various components of the brain show up on EVA-00's... synapse listings, or whatever the hell those data screens are.
but I think it serves no purpose than sending electric signals to body parts. All emotions and decisions are made by soul, than probably carried out in physical world by the brain.
BTW Eva is based on dualism, right?
This reminds me of a drawn-out debate I had with Wigs a while back... I think you are correct on this matter. The brain is, in a way, the soul's corporeal counterpart. Sure, the soul can do all of these things on its own, but the soul -- in mere mortals, anyway -- is entirely dependent on the brain to have a grounds in physical reality through the body it occupies... Evas seem to be able to get away with quite a bit in this regard, rendering their brains something of a biological relic not necessarily needed by a divinity (Adam may have been based on some kind of 'lower' humanoid life form, for all we know), but, even as a vestige, it still is a functioning organ.
Originally posted on: 04-Nov-2004, 02:45 GMT