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Postby chee » Sun Oct 21, 2007 3:47 pm

split from the MPAA Rating thread

CitizenGeek wrote:I like Matt Greenfield.


They're going to kill you for saying something positive about Matt Greenfield. RUN, CITIZENGEEK, RUN!! [/only halfway joking]
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Postby Big Panda » Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:49 pm

chee wrote:
CitizenGeek wrote:I like Matt Greenfield.


They're going to kill you for saying something positive about Matt Greenfield. RUN, CITIZENGEEK, RUN!! [/only halfway joking]


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Postby cat42 » Sun Oct 21, 2007 6:59 pm

CitizenGeek wrote:I like Matt Greenfield. He done more than a good enough job on the dub, seems to have a genuine interest in Evangelion's "deeper" meaning. Both him and his wife seem to be very fond and very passionate about Eva ... isn't that better than dragging in someone who's never even heard of Evangelion before, forcing them to watch it a few times and then giving them the job?


*Cat42 is trying to restrain himself*

"Dammit dammit"
"Dammit dammit"

*Move has failed!*

He looped goddamn Grant's lines 5 GODDAMN TIMES because, he claims, "GAINAX told him too, as the scene was too confusing".
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Bullfuckingshit!

This is not the only instance of Greenfield's failure.

Matt Greenfield is full of himself, believes he created Eva, and Grant has a worse Asuka complex than some fap-boys out there.

*Cat42 tries to not imagine the two of them having sex while she wears her plug suit.*

"Oh god no"
"Oh god no"

*Move has failed!*
*Cat42 goes to burn the image out of his brain.*
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Postby Hunter21 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:45 pm

I still remember Greenfield trying to say Aum Shinrikyo's sarin attack was one of the main basis' for Evangelion at a con I went to. And his big relationship with Anno was he was friends with a guy who knew Anno becuase they were both model train otaku. If you ever see the guy in real life speak at a con it is almost impossible to like him afterwards. He really does give off the impression that he is the mastermind behind Evangelion over here. (Unfortunately Grant was with him too. She didn't answer one question and let Matt do almost all the talking. The only thing she really said was she hated Shinji and then she left the room when Monica Rial (Sp?) showed up.)
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Postby NAveryW » Mon Oct 22, 2007 4:41 pm

Greenfield does love Evangelion and has an interest in its deeper meaning; I certainly give him that. What annoys me is that he gets so many things about it completely wrong and lays them out as though they were the truth. Some examples are the meaning of the phrase "Human Instrumentality Project", his erroneous translation of the series' title ("First Book of the New Gospel" instead of "Gospel of the New Beginning"), and his insistence that I like other men.
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Postby BrikHaus » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:34 pm

NAveryW wrote:and his insistence that I like other men.

Well, don't you? I mean, there's Kaworu, Dumbledore, and NAvery.
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Postby chee » Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:52 pm

cat42 wrote:*Cat42 tries to not imagine the two of them having sex while she wears her plug suit.*


That image is at the same time disturbing, horrifyingly plausible, and weirdly hilarious for reasons I can't fully explain.

It would make for great German expressionist cinema.
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Postby BrikHaus » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:22 pm

cat42 wrote:*Cat42 tries to not imagine the two of them having sex while she wears her plug suit.*

Matt Greenfield boning Tiffany Grant in a crotchless red plug-suit is probably the greatest thing anybody has ever thought of. It's probably already been on THAT BOARD by now, or if not, it soon will be.
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Postby cat42 » Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:38 pm

I watched the tour of her Asuka room. I know she has a plug suit. I hope to god it's not crotchless...
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Postby Ornette » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:09 pm

Mrs. Grant apparently made an appearance on THAT BOARD. I wished I saved those threads. Can't remember what exactly she said about Matt Greenfield, in response to some of the criticism from some of the posts concerning both her and Matt.

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Postby Kaminoyouni » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:14 pm

Ornette wrote:Mrs. Grant apparently made an appearance on THAT BOARD. I wished I saved those threads. Can't remember what exactly she said about Matt Greenfield, in response to some of the criticism from some of the posts concerning both her and Matt.
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Postby chee » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:23 pm

I can't even imagine the insults they probably hurled at her.
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Postby Ornette » Mon Oct 22, 2007 8:39 pm

It was pretty bad at first, nobody believed it was her. EM even emailed her and confirmed it. Then it got a little better (but not much) and she left. Personally, I think there's a fuzzy line that should be avoided if you want to be taken seriously. It's fine to criticize someone's work, but personal attacks on someone because of a work is just infantile. ("Grant's Asuka is retarded" as opposed to "Grant is a retard") I know most of what gets posted on THAT BOARD isn't very serious to begin with, but the insults did get to the point where Tiffany Grant actually came there to straighten things out (it was hard to believe it was really her).

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Postby AuthenticM » Mon Oct 22, 2007 10:34 pm

When did this happen?
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Postby Ornette » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:36 pm

Not that long ago, sometime over the summer I'd say. I guess I can check the image archive.

Looks like probably between May 28 to June 3rd, that's when a bunch of Tiffany Grant/Matt Greenfield images got posted.

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Postby V » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:46 pm

the ultimate goal is to work WITH the ADV people, not against them.

Essentially there are 2 courses of action:

1 - Sit around in messageboards arguing amongst each other, simply reacting to mistakes/errors made by the translation team, nothing "proactive", inevitably to complain about the next set of DVDs.

2 - Actively build the ultimate guide to Evangelion, become involved with the English voice cast folks, show them our *totally free* guide to Eva and use it as an instructional tool....thus actively affecting the quality of the next set of Eva stuff.


Lord of the Rings, for example, went with "actively make incredibly accurate, pre-existing fan-made free comprehensive guides to the entire thing, then become involved with the people actually making it, pointing out errors they make, and thus use it as a reference guide (i.e. so many people wrote in that "Frodo actively shoving Gollum into the Crack of Doom makes no sense and is in effect murdering him", that they were influenced (upon seeing the godawful temp footage) to reshoot it to be back in keeping with the books, and "Fate" kills Gollum.


We're not living in the age of 10 or even 5 years ago, when online fan groups had little influence over how major franchise works are produced.


Or, put more simply:


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Postby V » Mon Oct 22, 2007 11:49 pm

Ok, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought "THAT BOARD" as you call it was little more than a hentai fanart posting, and not a "messageboard" per se....
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Postby Ornette » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:08 am

V wrote:Ok, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought "THAT BOARD" as you call it was little more than a hentai fanart posting, and not a "messageboard" per se....

It's as much as a message board as 4chan is. More specifically, I guess it's called an "image board". It's not a message board the same way a forum is. And I don't even know who they are, since most people there are "Anonymous".

As far as the criticism goes:
me wrote:Personally, I think there's a fuzzy line that should be avoided if you want to be taken seriously. It's fine to criticize someone's work, but personal attacks on someone because of a work is just infantile.

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Postby BrikHaus » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:18 am

V wrote:1 - Sit around in messageboards arguing amongst each other, simply reacting to mistakes/errors made by the translation team, nothing "proactive", inevitably to complain about the next set of DVDs.

Sounds good to me!

2 - Actively build the ultimate guide to Evangelion, become involved with the English voice cast folks, show them our *totally free* guide to Eva and use it as an instructional tool....thus actively affecting the quality of the next set of Eva stuff.

Seeing as how that thing is by invite only, 99% of fans will be excluded, and they will have to resort to option 1 instead.

Besides, I don't want Matt Greenfield getting ideas from the Eva Wiki, anyway. I'd rather have the Live Action Movie be all about how Shamshel looks like a penis.
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Postby chee » Tue Oct 23, 2007 12:34 am

You know what? Greenfingers LAEM Unit-01 is going to be a penis. A big purple penis. And the less said about the entry plug the better.
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