"You are not your job. You are not the money in your bank account. You are not the car you drive. You are not how much money is in your wallet. You are not your ****ing post count." -- Tylor Durden

Originally posted on: 27-Jul-2005, 04:10 GMT

I'm not really sure if Gendo wanted her out of the way or not. I would also say the event shows some information about Gendo's relationship with Rei; that he talks about this sort of thing with her, or she is in his presence when he talks about this sort of thing with others. But that has less to do with what the original purpose of the scene is meant to communicate.

However, I don't really think Gendo is so hearless to kill people when they become useless. It may be true that Rei just lost her way. He could just as easily break off the relationship, fire her, or ignore her and keep her around for maintanence. I'm not so ready to peg Gendo as an evil mastermind when things happen that even he doesn't expect to happen; he just takes surprises better.

Reichu wrote:"You are not your job. You are not the money in your bank account. You are not the car you drive. You are not how much money is in your wallet. You are not your ****ing post count." -- Tylor Durden

Says the one with over 5000 posts in 2 years. Happy anniversary

Originally posted on: 27-Jul-2005, 20:21 GMT

Reichu wrote:^ You seem to have difficulty understanding the concept of humor.

Only those that are sloppy.

Reichu wrote:Seven years? Naoko died in 2010.

But five years is a long time too. Even Naoko isn't that insecure to wait all that time and do nothing.

Reichu wrote:Judging by the notes coating the inside of Melchior, Naoko had plenty of plans in mind for the MAGI.

Yes she didn't plan dying.

Reichu wrote:Plus they do need constant maintenance. It would have been a somewhat more realistic division of labor -- as opposed to Ritsuko, by some ludicrous miracle or another, being able to carry the weight of so many tasks later on.

Magi doesn't need constant maintenance from a genious, and actually it is very impractical to need a genious for maintenance constantly. Of course there will be need of a spacialist at standby, for crisis such as #13 or #25', and it never hurts to have creator by your side, ideally you should be able to do without her.

Reichu wrote:Let's also not forget that Naoko has a brain the size of a planet. It is probably safe to say that she had more ideas rolling around in her grey matter than just the MAGI and would have created additional breakthrough technologies after the MAGI's completion. Gawd knows Gehirn/Nerv's technology department needs all the top brand brains it can get.

Does the phrase "Too smart for her own good" ring a bell?

Reichu wrote:My gut reaction is that Rei just overheard Gendo grumbling (possibly to a coworker)

Who is that coworker, Gendo's only true accomplice is Kozo, and even though he is Yui's lapdog he would find such conversation distasteful. And Gendo doesn't share his dirtiest activities with Kozo (such as Jet Alone incident).

Vicil wrote:However, I don't really think Gendo is so hearless to kill people when they become useless.

Gendo won't hesitate to kill anyone on his path, and he is ready to sacrifice entire Tokyo-3 to reach his plans.
And with anyone else such a conservation will be about ordering her retirement.

Vicil wrote:It may be true that Rei just lost her way.

The coincidences are damn too convenient.

Vicil wrote:He could just as easily break off the relationship, fire her, or ignore her and keep her around for maintanence.

"A sword you throw away today is a sword at your throat tomorrow". Any of these would just ensure to make her a threat. She knows a lot of things and is smart enough to figure out all his plans eventually. Some wrong words to some random people and Gendo is a doomed man. Some wrong words to SEELE and Gendo won't even have a grave.

Vicil wrote:I'm not so ready to peg Gendo as an evil mastermind when things happen that even he doesn't expect to happen; he just takes surprises better.

True Gendo is no Uber Puppe Meister, but that isn't to say that he isn't manipulative. He used, deceived and betrayed everyone in sight. He isn't playing chess, but a mixture of poker and Russian roulette.

Originally posted on: 27-Jul-2005, 15:53 GMT

Hey, man. Magami has admitted that she's become post count crazed recently. I could care less about my post count. It's a goddam number. I have no idea how it got so ludicrously high, but I sure as hell am not proud of it in any way, since the only thing it seems to prove is that I spend way too much time here.

Goldarmy wrote:Only those that are sloppy.

Funny. The majority of other people here seem to be able to comprehend my sense of humor. You just seem to demonstrate that it goes over your head and is offensive in some way. Sorry you feel that way, but I'm not going to change my personality just to make you happy.

Does the phrase "Too smart for her own good" ring a bell?

And Ritsuko isn't?

Who is that coworker, Gendo's only true accomplice is Kozo, and even though he is Yui's lapdog he would find such conversation distasteful. And Gendo doesn't share his dirtiest activities with Kozo (such as Jet Alone incident).

I'll just say that the personalities around Gehirn/Nerv are not limited to the people we actually meet. They're only introduced as actual characters as needed, but that doesn't mean that they're not there.

Gendo won't hesitate to kill anyone on his path, and he is ready to sacrifice entire Tokyo-3 to reach his plans.

Exactly how was Naoko "in his path"? She was in his pants, but that was about it.

The coincidences are damn too convenient.

And far too unpredictable to be anything BUT coincidence.

As I've already said, if it was truly Gendo's intention to off her, there are extremely straightforward ways of doing that. You're grasping at straws.

Originally posted on: 27-Jul-2005, 15:55 GMT

Actually, I really was agreeing with you, but had nothing much to say after that. Sorry about that. I'm trying to lay off doing it though.(It's not like I've stoped posting large amounts of text, just look in the Japanese Culture forum.^^;;

Originally posted on: 27-Jul-2005, 16:20 GMT

Reichu wrote:Funny. The majority of other people here seem to be able to comprehend my sense of humor. You just seem to demonstrate that it goes over your head and is offensive in some way. Sorry you feel that way, but I'm not going to change my personality just to make you happy.

Good for you that there are others who enjoy your jokes unlike humourless me. Except some cultural references they don't fly over my head. And I never asked you to change your personality nor would I want to, sorry if you feel that way.

Reichu wrote:And Ritsuko isn't?

She isn't better than her mother.

Reichu wrote:I'll just say that the personalities around Gehirn/Nerv are not limited to the people we actually meet. They're only introduced as actual characters as needed, but that doesn't mean that they're not there.

This is moot, the existence of such a confidant (I say confidant, not underling) character is equally valid and invalid.

For example Fuyutsuki may have a niece living in Tokyo-3 and working as a policewoman. The fact she isn't introduced doesn't mean she isn't there, she just isn't needed; at the same time there is no reference to her simply for the fact that such a character has never existed.

Reichu wrote:Exactly how was Naoko "in his path"? She was in his pants, but that was about it.

You will never direct an organisation like NERV, not that I would fare any better mind you. Please tell me why she won't be threat at any time in the future?

Reichu wrote:As I've already said, if it was truly Gendo's intention to off her, there are extremely straightforward ways of doing that.

Are there any in your mind that doesn't lack subtlety.

Originally posted on: 27-Jul-2005, 17:31 GMT

Sorry about the crack, Reichu. I was hoping you wouldn't take offense. None the less, happy 2 year anniversary.

Originally posted on: 27-Jul-2005, 18:19 GMT

Rei certainly did call Rei an old hag. Naoko would not have wanted to know she was just used. Rei said it. Maybe I'm wrong, but right before this had happend, wasn't Ritsuko shown watching her mother and Gendou from above?

Originally posted on: 27-Jul-2005, 18:21 GMT

This is moot, the existence of such a confidant (I say confidant, not underling) character is equally valid and invalid.

For example Fuyutsuki may have a niece living in Tokyo-3 and working as a policewoman. The fact she isn't introduced doesn't mean she isn't there, she just isn't needed; at the same time there is no reference to her simply for the fact that such a character has never existed.

Much like Kaji's shooter, there is no reference.

Originally posted on: 27-Jul-2005, 18:27 GMT

Gendou confiding such intimacies in a random confidant is hardly consistent with his rather reticent character. It's more likely he stated the words directly to Rei, as she was in effect, this trusted confidant to which we are referring.

Originally posted on: 27-Jul-2005, 18:32 GMT

Soluzar wrote:You'll notice that although she did not make it explicit, Reichu appears to be in agreement with me. Look, if you want to understand why she said it, I suggest you go hand around with kids. Kids repeat only the most embarrassing things they hear their elders say.

I agree. The fact that Rei I says this smiling proves this. Rei, beeing the little girl that she was, thought that this was little more that a game, much like when a 4 year old says "Fart" in the middle of a group of adults just to see their reactions and laugh at them.

The fact that Naoko straggles Rei I for this proves just how ****** in the head she was.

Originally posted on: 28-Jul-2005, 05:27 GMT