Reichu wrote:What I was going for:
"Stigmata": Lilith's Doors of Guf
'Divine Spirits': Kamigami who were forcibly freed from physical form (as a prerequisite for 3I)
In theory, the stigmata bestowed upon Yui could act as "forced" Doors, providing passage for said souls into the 'medium'.
That's an interesting idea, but makes sense of several scatted plot elements (both SEELE and Gendo having to defeat the Angels, SEELE's desires for humans to be reborn as a god, Keel's comment in the manga about using 3I for humans to be reborn as "children of God", etc).
The only thing that doesn't quite fit is Keel's line in #24, where he says "We won't rely on Adam or the Angels." Wouldn't your idea of the 3I medium be a reliance on the Angels?
Reichu wrote:I'm not quite sure I follow your thought stream on GNR's 3rd Eye.
The third eye represents the pineal gland (and, by association, the "throne of souls"). Considering Rei is the mother of humanity, I don't think it's a stretch to say that her third eye is a throne of all souls (a pineal gland that connects to all other humans).
But then again, does it really matter? The only people that Shinji communicates with after he enters the third eye is Lilith, Adam, and Yui. His "moment of psychological penetration" may just be something akin to his life flashing before his eyes.
Reichu wrote:Ah, you confused me. That's #25.
My mistake. I just checked #26, and the only thing Gendo says about 3I is that "It's the only way to exist."
We are only returning to our mother, who has been lost to this world.
Reichu wrote:Since when was there an "explodey AATF"? It seems more logical to link the "Huge F-ing Explosions" up with "S2s in Overdrive". I mean, an AATF should be doing something to live up to its name somehow.
Well during 2I, Adam generates an AATF that creates explosions. Nobody actually melts until Adam spreads his wings (which may be a hint to him/her/it opening his/her/it's Doors of Guf).
Based on what we see of AATFs in 2I and 3I, I'd say that an AATF alone creates an explosion, but an AATF coupled with the Doors of Guf opening (an indicator of which is an SoL spreading his/her wings) is what "resets all life."
Reichu wrote:No "I think"! Cite, cite, cite!
This is the only place where I could find the reference again. Here's the post in question:
yeah in episode 23' armisael merges with unit 00 and turns into a GNR before exploding. I'm not even going to try and figure that one out either. the commentary in the platinum books just says that they do this just because it also happens in EoE and it just sets the groundwork for EoE. I just think it's the angel's ability to kinda absorb and join with it's target.
Originally posted on: 07.26.2006, 10:07 PM